servodude wrote:<grabs popcorn and thinks this will be fun/>Infrasonic wrote:
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servodude wrote:<grabs popcorn and thinks this will be fun/>Infrasonic wrote:
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Explaining Computers 19 Jan 2020
Linux terminal tutorial, aimed at those migrating from Windows, and users of single board computers including the Raspberry Pi. Covers a range of terminal commands and Linux concepts, including navigating and manipulating drives and directories using the commands pwd, ls, lsblk, cd, mkdir, rmdir, cp, and mv. Video also covers installing applications via the terminal, and a few tips and tricks!
man() { LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\e[01;31m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\e[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\e[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\e[01;44;33m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\e[0m' \ LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\e[01;32m' \ command man "$@" }it makes the output from the man command much easier to read by adding colours.
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What is it you actually want to do with/on it? i.e. remote access to what?vrdiver wrote:I have a chromebook which has reached end-of-life for chrome OS support (no more updates). I'd like to use it as a remote machine (accessed from a windows PC) and was thinking this might be a perfect candidate for a Linux conversion, but could really do with a recommendation as to which version of Linux might be appropriate:
I'd suggest you read up on the basics of Linux first (maybe start with this entire thread and then follow links to other topics) to get a feel for how it works. Whilst you can use GUI apps with Linux having some basic terminal skills (command line) is going to be pretty much essential at some point or other.vrdiver wrote:I have a chromebook which has reached end-of-life for chrome OS support (no more updates). I'd like to use it as a remote machine (accessed from a windows PC) and was thinking this might be a perfect candidate for a Linux conversion, but could really do with a recommendation as to which version of Linux might be appropriate:
- I'm new to Linux (brand new!)
- I want to be able to remote access the machine
- the hardware is old / low spec (Acer C720)
Suggestions welcome, preferably with reasons why...
Many thanks in advance
VRD
Sorry, I should have been clearer re requirements. I want to access the chromebook FROM my windows 10 pc, and once there, access a number of different web pages, some of which will require input, rather than just reading. The machine will also be hooked up to a couple of sensors (temperature, humidity) which, again, will have a small amount of data that I'd like access to. I can currently do this with the chrome OS, but as support has ended for this machine it seems like an opportunity to try out a Linux platform.swill453 wrote:What is it you actually want to do with/on it? i.e. remote access to what?vrdiver wrote:I have a chromebook which has reached end-of-life for chrome OS support (no more updates). I'd like to use it as a remote machine (accessed from a windows PC) and was thinking this might be a perfect candidate for a Linux conversion, but could really do with a recommendation as to which version of Linux might be appropriate:
EDIT: Or do you really mean remote access from it to your Windows PC?
Scott.
I'm really surprised that Chrome Remote Desktop doesn't workvrdiver wrote:Sorry, I should have been clearer re requirements. I want to access the chromebook FROM my windows 10 pc, and once there, access a number of different web pages, some of which will require input, rather than just reading. The machine will also be hooked up to a couple of sensors (temperature, humidity) which, again, will have a small amount of data that I'd like access to. I can currently do this with the chrome OS, but as support has ended for this machine it seems like an opportunity to try out a Linux platform.swill453 wrote: What is it you actually want to do with/on it? i.e. remote access to what?
EDIT: Or do you really mean remote access from it to your Windows PC?
Scott.
Oh, I'd like to use something other than chrome, as the chrome remote desktop needs somebody at the other end to OK the connection, which isn't an option...
VRD
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Thanks for the response. I just had a look at the Brave browser, but then realised you have it on a Windows environment, not on a chromebook? I thought it was the Brave browser that was giving you the PIN functionality, but then realised you were referring to the PIN capability of CRD when implemented on a Windows machine. That functionaity is explicitly not supported by Chrome OS (as far as I can tell from searching configuration on my chromebook and googling).servodude wrote: I'm really surprised that Chrome Remote Desktop doesn't work
It's my preferred (since TeamViewer got all antsy about running server software being "commercial" use) way of accessing remote PCs (running the client on Win 10) headlessly.
I'm accessing then using me Google account and a Pin on the Brave browser; the only gotcha I can recall being that HTML5 needs to be enabled.
There are oodles of options and possibly you might be able to find the magic tick box that lets you get to your ChromeBook?
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Thanks for that. It looks like I can get a basic Ubuntu install or a Bodhi Linux, which seems to be a lighter version, so I may well try that.Infrasonic wrote: Options.
You might be able to install the Chromium OS (free open source version) using cloudready...https://github.com/DennisLfromGA/CBC-Pr ... -Dev-mode)
https://www.neverware.com/#intro
If you want to go down the actual Linux install route then a 'lite' version will probably be best like Lubuntu, which will put less strain on the modest hardware specs.
Have you Googled around your specific Chromebook model number to see what the Linux options are yet? It varies a bit.
In Dev mode you should be able to install it without too much hassle (my opening caveats notwithstanding). Whether Linux works as expected is going to be more unpredictable. Again you need to research your specific Chromebook to see what issues there are with various Linux distros.
You're correct that I've not tried with a ChromeOS machine, but I'm surprised that it can't be done given how it works on windows (essentially through being logged in to the Chrome browser)vrdiver wrote:Thanks for the response. I just had a look at the Brave browser, but then realised you have it on a Windows environment, not on a chromebook? I thought it was the Brave browser that was giving you the PIN functionality, but then realised you were referring to the PIN capability of CRD when implemented on a Windows machine. That functionaity is explicitly not supported by Chrome OS (as far as I can tell from searching configuration on my chromebook and googling).servodude wrote: I'm really surprised that Chrome Remote Desktop doesn't work
It's my preferred (since TeamViewer got all antsy about running server software being "commercial" use) way of accessing remote PCs (running the client on Win 10) headlessly.
I'm accessing then using me Google account and a Pin on the Brave browser; the only gotcha I can recall being that HTML5 needs to be enabled.
There are oodles of options and possibly you might be able to find the magic tick box that lets you get to your ChromeBook?
-sd
Currently I need somebody at the chromebook end of the connection to accept the remote login (give permission for the incoming request to be accepted). On a windows pc or Linux install, there is the option to use a PIN, but not for chrome-based remote computers, at least, not using CRD or TeamViewer).
Unless I've misunderstood your post, you are accessing windows based remote machines, not chrome OS based machines? It's accessing the chrome OS machine remotely (and unattended) that I am struggling with, hence the request for suggested versions of Linux that might suit my needs...
If I've missed a trick and there IS a way to do this with the existing chrome OS then I'd be happy to hear about it, but would still have some concern that the version of chrome OS on my Acer C720 is no longer being updated and will become more and more of a security risk whilst left connected to the internet...
VRD
Thanks for that. The link talks about the setup, but assumes the remote machine is a Mac or PC, not a chromebook (i.e. the opposite way around cf what I need.) In the article you'll notice the PIN generation is for access to the Mac, using his chromebook.servodude wrote: You're correct that I've not tried with a ChromeOS machine, but I'm surprised that it can't be done given how it works on windows (essentially through being logged in to the Chrome browser)
Any clues in the following link:
https://www.laptopmag.com/amp/articles/ ... chromebook
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That's disappointing; and it's put me off a Chromebook I was looking at.vrdiver wrote:Thanks for that. The link talks about the setup, but assumes the remote machine is a Mac or PC, not a chromebook (i.e. the opposite way around cf what I need.) In the article you'll notice the PIN generation is for access to the Mac, using his chromebook.servodude wrote: You're correct that I've not tried with a ChromeOS machine, but I'm surprised that it can't be done given how it works on windows (essentially through being logged in to the Chrome browser)
Any clues in the following link:
https://www.laptopmag.com/amp/articles/ ... chromebook
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From Google's webstore: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... ihenigjmpp
Using Chrome Remote Desktop you can share access to your computer with an individual you trust, who will then be able to view your computer screen and control your computer remotely, just as if they were sitting beside you helping in person. Sharing is fully secured, access is given only to the specific person you identify, and only on a one-time basis
I've found several forums (fora?) where people are asking when access into an unattended chromebook will be allowed, but no answers other than that the target machine must accept each request for remote access via human operator; e.g. this thread: https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/ ... te-support.
Looks like Linux is the solution...
VRD
My version of Chrome is 76.0.3809.136 (64bit)Infrasonic wrote:It might help if you give us the exact Chrome OS version you are currently on, as obviously things have moved on over the years wrt its capabilities.
For instance from the Laptop mag link from SD there was an article from 2018 about how to set up pin access on a CB by going into developer mode and selecting a flag option.
I'm pretty certain when I set up my CB in November '19 I set the six digit unlock pin at initial setup as I didn't want to use my Google account password. (I did the same on my W10 PC.) No dev mode or flags needed. (I have used dev/ flags for a few other under the hood tweaks).
I'll have a look at the remote desktop options on my CB over the next few days and see if I can do what you want to achieve (unattended access) from my W10 PC or Pixel 3a Android (10) phone. Of course it's always possible that I might be able to do it and you won't if your Chrome OS version is too old in which case Linux might be your only option, although it might be worth seeing if you could force a Chrome OS sideload to a more recent version if that is indeed the issue (or go the Neverware Chromium OS route)?