Do you regularly use lateral flow tests?
Posted: March 18th, 2022, 6:42 pm
How often do you test yourself?
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It would never cross my mind to do that. The only tests I have had were when I needed to fly, or else because my doctor or dentist required it, the latter no longer being required in favour of proof of vaccination.scotia wrote:Before I meet groups of people indoors socially. And before medical and dentist appointments. I'm retired - so no workplace visits.
Not test and then Covid will disappear.vrdiver wrote: For those that have answered "yes", what will you do once free tests are withdrawn?
VRD
stock up with test kits while they are freely available.vrdiver wrote:We've used them before meeting up with friends who have vulnerable family members, but otherwise, only if required by e.g. airline etc.
For those that have answered "yes", what will you do once free tests are withdrawn?
VRD
We have "a few" (!) but a) Covid isn't going to go away before your stock runs out, and b) most (almost everybody AFAICS) will stop testing shortly, which means asymptomatic cases will be circulating unchecked and unknown amongst the general population, in schools, workplaces and social gatherings such as theatres, restaurants, bars and clubs, public transport etc. etc.scotia wrote:stock up with test kits while they are freely available.vrdiver wrote:We've used them before meeting up with friends who have vulnerable family members, but otherwise, only if required by e.g. airline etc.
For those that have answered "yes", what will you do once free tests are withdrawn?
VRD
Yes - I think that's the optimistic hope. But will the medical infrastructure cope with the latest significant outbreaks? About a month ago our local GP service (Central Scotland) started increasing traditional in-person consultations, hoping to get back to pre-Covid normality. But today they announced that they were under considerable stress and that they were operating an emergency-only service. This latest BA.2 Omicron variant seems to be sweeping through Scotland - and now we have friends and family (fully vaccinated - and previously not infected by Covid) who have succumbed to the new variant. My grandchildren (who imported the infection from school) seem to have been relatively unaffected, but their parents reported that it was like a significant Flu infection. So I'm not convinced that the recent lessening of restrictions will turn out to be a a wise choice. I look forward to receiving the next booster for us 75+ oldies.vrdiver wrote: As far as I can figure out, the government policy is to "hope" that hospitalisation due to Covid remains low, and that a summer of mass-circulation means that the winter season will be subdued, due to everybody having antibodies.
Much like every other infectious disease then?vrdiver wrote:We have "a few" (!) but a) Covid isn't going to go away before your stock runs out, and b) most (almost everybody AFAICS) will stop testing shortly, which means asymptomatic cases will be circulating unchecked and unknown amongst the general population, in schools, workplaces and social gatherings such as theatres, restaurants, bars and clubs, public transport etc. etc.scotia wrote: stock up with test kits while they are freely available.
Without mandatory self-isolation, people will also be returning to general circulation before they've stopped shedding Covid after suffering a symptomatic infection. Basically, Covid is going to be all around us big time.
As far as I can figure out, the government policy is to "hope" that hospitalisation due to Covid remains low, and that a summer of mass-circulation means that the winter season will be subdued, due to everybody having antibodies.
No argument there. The "hope" bit is really based around the fact that the virus is still "new" in human terms, still mutating (AIUI nobody is saying omicron is the final form) and the calculations re hospitalisation and re-infection impacts are still heavily based on theory (I'm not aware of any country that has data to show us what to expect re covid as we enter this wide-circulation phase).dealtn wrote:Much like every other infectious disease then?vrdiver wrote: As far as I can figure out, the government policy is to "hope" that hospitalisation due to Covid remains low, and that a summer of mass-circulation means that the winter season will be subdued, due to everybody having antibodies.
I would "hope" the policy is a little more thought out than based purely on "hope". Isn't that why there are scientific advisors, providing guidance? My "hope" is they will continue to be pragmatic, and not dogmatic, and would adjust policy if events turned out to be worse (or better) than expected or desired.
Do we have numbers for deaths from the common cold, measles, chichen pox, mumps etcdealtn wrote: Much like every other infectious disease then?
Pretty sure we do for the last 3, certainly for measles. Thankfully all low. No doubt we would have much better data for infections for them too if we had free tests and mandatory isolation periods also.pje16 wrote:Do we have numbers for deaths from the common cold, measles, chichen pox, mumps etcdealtn wrote: Much like every other infectious disease then?
We don't have numbers of deaths from covid.pje16 wrote:Do we have numbers for deaths from the common cold, measles, chichen pox, mumps etcdealtn wrote: Much like every other infectious disease then?
There are also other methods we "know" such as is Covid mentioned on the death certificate (unlikely in your bus scenario). That might also be imperfect, but is likely to be similar in comparing between Covid and other infectious diseases (which was the comparison being made I believe).absolutezero wrote:We don't have numbers of deaths from covid.pje16 wrote: Do we have numbers for deaths from the common cold, measles, chichen pox, mumps etc
We have an inflated measure* that contains "with" and "of" and so is pretty much useless unless we know the "of" figure - which we never will.
*The old 'positive test then gets killed by being knocked over by a bus within 28 days' figure.
Is true.dealtn wrote:There are also other methods we "know" such as is Covid mentioned on the death certificate (unlikely in your bus scenario). That might also be imperfect, but is likely to be similar in comparing between Covid and other infectious diseases (which was the comparison being made I believe).absolutezero wrote: We don't have numbers of deaths from covid.
We have an inflated measure* that contains "with" and "of" and so is pretty much useless unless we know the "of" figure - which we never will.
*The old 'positive test then gets killed by being knocked over by a bus within 28 days' figure.