Vaccine Queues
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This is the home for all non-political Coronavirus (Covid-19) discussions on The Lemon Fool
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- Lemon Slice
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Vaccine Queues
What better way to help the virus spread than to have large numbers of people lingering in one area.
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- Lemon Half
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To take your question at face value and answer it, a far better way to spread the virus would be to have them all singing together, or shouting "It's behind you!!!!"BT63 wrote:What better way to help the virus spread than to have large numbers of people lingering in one area.
As if that would ever happen this time of year, though.
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- Lemon Quarter
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I passed a queue of well over 100 people at about 9:15 this morning. Given that this was outside, they were in a line, and not standing too close to each other, I would consider the risk to be very low.BT63 wrote:What better way to help the virus spread than to have large numbers of people lingering in one area.
Julian F. G. W.
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- Lemon Half
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Re: Vaccine Queues
eermmm
they're outdoors and unless you can breathe in through the back of your head there's not too much risk
But I did see the easy opportunity to have a laugh
they're outdoors and unless you can breathe in through the back of your head there's not too much risk
But I did see the easy opportunity to have a laugh
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- The full Lemon
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Re: Vaccine Queues
I think that is taking cynicism too far if they are queuing round the block and in the open air.BT63 wrote:What better way to help the virus spread than to have large numbers of people lingering in one area.
Dod
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- Lemon Quarter
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- Lemon Quarter
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I was modenised yesterday in the old John Lewis store in Aberdeen. From previous experience for Oxford I and II (at TECA) I turned up about 20 minutes early for my appointment. The queue was out the door when I arrived all neatly spaced. I think they were keeping everyone outside whilst they cleared a backlog inside as they rapidly moved every one inside about 5 minutes after I arrived. Took about 15-20 minutes for the queue to make it to the check in desks (so i arrived almost spot on my appointment time) and then there was another (shorter) queue to get a vaccinator. All seemed well organised and there were a few soldiers helping out as vaccinators.
In all it took about 1hr 30 mins to get from work, boosted and back including cycling there and back, so not bad. I booked 8 days before yesterday's appointment.
In all it took about 1hr 30 mins to get from work, boosted and back including cycling there and back, so not bad. I booked 8 days before yesterday's appointment.
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- Lemon Quarter
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Re: Vaccine Queues
Why were the first two rounds of jabs done on an age/risk priority basis - but now this booster has been turned into a free-for-all?
It seems a bit random to me.
It seems a bit random to me.
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- Lemon Half
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Not random... logical
Omicron is reported as spreading much faster so more urgency in getting protected
Omicron is reported as spreading much faster so more urgency in getting protected
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- Lemon Half
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Re: Vaccine Queues
The booster has been done in exactly the same way as the first two jabs; by age/risk priority first and then finally anyone 18+. The difference this time round is that fewer people took it up when they were invited by age/risk but later decided it was a good idea when omicron came along.MrFoolish wrote:Why were the first two rounds of jabs done on an age/risk priority basis - but now this booster has been turned into a free-for-all?
It seems a bit random to me.
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- Lemon Quarter
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So if they are now prepared to take up the booster, this fails to explain why they've dumped the priority system.mc2fool wrote:The booster has been done in exactly the same way as the first two jabs; by age/risk priority first and then finally anyone 18+. The difference this time round is that fewer people took it up when they were invited by age/risk but later decided it was a good idea when omicron came along.MrFoolish wrote:Why were the first two rounds of jabs done on an age/risk priority basis - but now this booster has been turned into a free-for-all?
It seems a bit random to me.
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- Lemon Half
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Uh? The priority system hasn't been "dumped", it's already been gone through. It started with 80+ in October and then gradually dropped to 70+, 60+, 50+, 40+, 30+ and is now at 18+. That's exactly as for the first two rounds.MrFoolish wrote:So if they are now prepared to take up the booster, this fails to explain why they've dumped the priority system.mc2fool wrote: The booster has been done in exactly the same way as the first two jabs; by age/risk priority first and then finally anyone 18+. The difference this time round is that fewer people took it up when they were invited by age/risk but later decided it was a good idea when omicron came along.
If you're asking why did some, e.g. 50+ folks not take it up when they were first eligible and invited by age/risk, you'll have to ask them; I got mine within a few days of being invited by the priority system.
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- Lemon Half
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I got asked one day after my 6 months had elapsed (very efficient)
buit it was a whole month before I got it (not inefficient - very high demand, in my area anyway)
buit it was a whole month before I got it (not inefficient - very high demand, in my area anyway)
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- Lemon Quarter
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I should think plenty of people in their 40s hadn't had their booster yet. Now they are fighting it out with 18 year olds.mc2fool wrote:Uh? The priority system hasn't been "dumped", it's already been gone through. It started with 80+ in October and then gradually dropped to 70+, 60+, 50+, 40+, 30+ and is now at 18+. That's exactly as for the first two rounds.MrFoolish wrote: So if they are now prepared to take up the booster, this fails to explain why they've dumped the priority system.
If you're asking why did some, e.g. 50+ folks not take it up when they were first eligible and invited by age/risk, you'll have to ask them; I got mine within a few days of being invited by the priority system.
I'm 50's. When I went for my second jab appointment, there was a notice on the vaccination centre door saying sorry, we are shut! I had to re-book. Unsurprisingly, I am now behind most of my age group. I'm not too worried about it - but don't assume everyone who didn't get a booster didn't want one.
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- Lemon Quarter
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The high-risk groups have already been offered it. Almost no 40-somethings will have had boosters by now on the original plan - I know a 40-something who got their first jab on the second day they could in mid-April, got a 2nd at a walk-in after 8 weeks in mid-June - so about as far ahead as it is possible for a non-vulnerable under-50 to do it. But that means they could not booster before mid-December and in fact the earliest appointment was in January, until the 6-month criterion was relaxed and they could walk in last week.MrFoolish wrote:I should think plenty of people in their 40s hadn't had their booster yet. Now they are fighting it out with 18 year olds.
But under 50 the age-related risks are much lower, and other factors come into play - a 20-something bartender is at far more risk than a 40-something accountant working from home. Particularly since if you look at Denmark, omicron is primarily hitting 20-somethings and to a lesser extent 30-somethings. And you've got the complications of Christmas and this urge to just get all of 18-50 boosted ASAP in the face of omicron. Doing it this way at least means centres won't be twiddling their thumbs because potential vaxees are prevented by paperwork.
It's not perfect, but it's not unreasonable.
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- Lemon Half
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I had my booster the day after I was eligible. A week before this rush, I was told by my consultant rheumatologist that my booster was equivalent to most people's second jab, so I should be eligible for a fourth you become my true booster. I won't hold my breath, but hopefully I will get one sometime.
Presumably, I'll have to wait for some longwinded exchange between consultant/GP/NHS before the system agrees I am eligible.
Arb.
Presumably, I'll have to wait for some longwinded exchange between consultant/GP/NHS before the system agrees I am eligible.
Arb.
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- Lemon Quarter
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Well I entirely agree with this answer. The change is largely to avoid the admin nightmare of having to re-schedule people. So it's probably not unreasonable in the circumstances. But it can't be denied that the age related schedule has gone out of the window.Hallucigenia wrote:The high-risk groups have already been offered it. Almost no 40-somethings will have had boosters by now on the original plan - I know a 40-something who got their first jab on the second day they could in mid-April, got a 2nd at a walk-in after 8 weeks in mid-June - so about as far ahead as it is possible for a non-vulnerable under-50 to do it. But that means they could not booster before mid-December and in fact the earliest appointment was in January, until the 6-month criterion was relaxed and they could walk in last week.MrFoolish wrote:I should think plenty of people in their 40s hadn't had their booster yet. Now they are fighting it out with 18 year olds.
But under 50 the age-related risks are much lower, and other factors come into play - a 20-something bartender is at far more risk than a 40-something accountant working from home. Particularly since if you look at Denmark, omicron is primarily hitting 20-somethings and to a lesser extent 30-somethings. And you've got the complications of Christmas and this urge to just get all of 18-50 boosted ASAP in the face of omicron. Doing it this way at least means centres won't be twiddling their thumbs because potential vaxees are prevented by paperwork.
It's not perfect, but it's not unreasonable.
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- Lemon Quarter
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Re: Vaccine Queues
Not all third jabs are boosters - if you have a weakened immune system for one of various reasons then you go in the system for a "3rd dose" per here :Arborbridge wrote:I had my booster the day after I was eligible. A week before this rush, I was told by my consultant rheumatologist that my booster was equivalent to most people's second jab, so I should be eligible for a fourth you become my true booster. I won't hold my breath, but hopefully I will get one sometime.
Presumably, I'll have to wait for some longwinded exchange between consultant/GP/NHS before the system agrees I am eligible.
Arb.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... -3rd-dose/
As you see, one of the criteria is "a condition or treatment your specialist advises makes you eligible for a 3rd dose". The system is geared up for that, so it should be a fairly straightforward case of either the consultant talking to the GP directly, or giving you a letter saying they recommend it.
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- Lemon Slice
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Re: Vaccine Queues
I'm 42 and had my booster on the 2nd December, eligible from the 26th November. Most of my friends of a similar age here have already had theirs too having hit the 6 month mark. Not sure if we're unusually efficient or if its a regional thing but I think it's a bit inaccurate to say almost none would have had it.Hallucigenia wrote:The high-risk groups have already been offered it. Almost no 40-somethings will have had boosters by now on the original plan - I know a 40-something who got their first jab on the second day they could in mid-April, got a 2nd at a walk-in after 8 weeks in mid-June - so about as far ahead as it is possible for a non-vulnerable under-50 to do it. But that means they could not booster before mid-December and in fact the earliest appointment was in January, until the 6-month criterion was relaxed and they could walk in last week.MrFoolish wrote:I should think plenty of people in their 40s hadn't had their booster yet. Now they are fighting it out with 18 year olds.
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- Lemon Half
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Thanks for that - it will help getting me started. Interestingly, I've had a booster dose (AFAIK) rather than a "3rd dose", so that rather muddles up the sequence.Hallucigenia wrote:Not all third jabs are boosters - if you have a weakened immune system for one of various reasons then you go in the system for a "3rd dose" per here :Arborbridge wrote:I had my booster the day after I was eligible. A week before this rush, I was told by my consultant rheumatologist that my booster was equivalent to most people's second jab, so I should be eligible for a fourth you become my true booster. I won't hold my breath, but hopefully I will get one sometime.
Presumably, I'll have to wait for some longwinded exchange between consultant/GP/NHS before the system agrees I am eligible.
Arb.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... -3rd-dose/
As you see, one of the criteria is "a condition or treatment your specialist advises makes you eligible for a 3rd dose". The system is geared up for that, so it should be a fairly straightforward case of either the consultant talking to the GP directly, or giving you a letter saying they recommend it.
I'm sure it will happen in due course, but it's the length of time which slightly worries me - knowing how many weeks consultant's letters usually take. I'm going to call the GP today, if I can. I have already emailed but no reply as yet - no doubt they are all up against it this week.
Arb.