274 million
Posted: September 8th, 2021, 6:23 pm
The number of Covid19 tests carried out in the UK.
(Gov.uk data).
(Gov.uk data).
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So vaccination is pointless [unless of course it concomitantly reduces the incidence of serious COVID with hospitalisation or long COVID or both]1nvest wrote:Scientific evidence has even suggested that those who are vaccinated are more inclined to contract and expose others to Covid than those who are non-vaccinated.
I think the idea is more like the idea that people who wear seatbelts or crash helmets take more risks as a result, and therefore end up being no safer.stewamax wrote:So vaccination is pointless [unless of course it concomitantly reduces the incidence of serious COVID with hospitalisation or long COVID or both]1nvest wrote:Scientific evidence has even suggested that those who are vaccinated are more inclined to contract and expose others to Covid than those who are non-vaccinated.
Kindly provide a link to this scientific evidence.
That is less than 5 tests per person. I have had 6.monabri wrote:But 274 million tests on a population of 66 million!
No. The risk of the vaccine for younger individuals is greater than the risk from contracting Covid whilst unvaccinated. More like a seatbelt made of barbed wire.Lootman wrote:I think the idea is more like the idea that people who wear seatbelts or crash helmets take more risks as a result, and therefore end up being no safer
I have had one a day for the last ten days as has my daughter and Mrs RSLootman wrote:I think the idea is more like the idea that people who wear seatbelts or crash helmets take more risks as a result, and therefore end up being no safer.stewamax wrote: So vaccination is pointless [unless of course it concomitantly reduces the incidence of serious COVID with hospitalisation or long COVID or both]
Kindly provide a link to this scientific evidence.
That is less than 5 tests per person. I have had 6.monabri wrote:But 274 million tests on a population of 66 million!
I've had 30+ (as required by each care home visit x 3 visits/week). I thought the general suggestion was two tests/week each. On recent discharge we were casually provided with 28 test units (four packs of 7 tests). When I went into a local chemist they offered further packs (that I declined due to not being needed/in having some already).Lootman wrote:That is less than 5 tests per person. I have had 6.monabri wrote:But 274 million tests on a population of 66 million!
Not quite, it is greater than the risks of death or serious illness from Covid but even then looking at the risks for one person misses out the larger population effects.1nvest wrote:No. The risk of the vaccine for younger individuals is greater than the risk from contracting Covid whilst unvaccinated. More like a seatbelt made of barbed wire.Lootman wrote:I think the idea is more like the idea that people who wear seatbelts or crash helmets take more risks as a result, and therefore end up being no safer
But if the viral loads are the same in junior whether they had been vaccinated or not, then grandma still bears the same risk. If unvaccinated junior stays at home however, away from grandma due to having a 'cold' that could be Covid, whereas vaccinated and infected junior expresses no symptoms and goes off to give grandma a big hug!!!Lanark wrote:So what you have to balance is lowering the risk of infection/reduced days when infectious, during which junior may pass a lethal illness to their parents or grandparents (or other people) vs the benefit of lowering their own risk by 0.005%
As happened in the Cornavirus discussion on the same subject. You are comparing risk of death, to risk of (often very minor) "complications". This comparison is nonsense.Lanark wrote:Risk of death from covid if infected = 0.005%
Lets say the risk of complications from the vaccine is somewhere around 0.01 %
I never heard that. There are many people who have never had a test, because they had no reason to. And if they have no cause then they should not be tested as the tests should focus on those who need it.1nvest wrote:I thought the general suggestion was two tests/week each.Lootman wrote: That is less than 5 tests per person. I have had 6.
I've never had a covid testLootman wrote:I never heard that. There are many people who have never had a test, because they had no reason to. And if they have no cause then they should not be tested as the tests should focus on those who need it.1nvest wrote: I thought the general suggestion was two tests/week each.
Me neither, nor Mrs m. That's why I was surprised at the number of tests carried out.SteMiS wrote:I've never had a covid testLootman wrote: I never heard that. There are many people who have never had a test, because they had no reason to. And if they have no cause then they should not be tested as the tests should focus on those who need it.
We have had 30 tests in the last ten days in my household.monabri wrote:Me neither, nor Mrs m. That's why I was surprised at the number of tests carried out.SteMiS wrote: I've never had a covid test
Does that include lateral flow tests - we use them liberally in this house, literally more LFTs than hot dinners over the last 3 months.monabri wrote:The number of Covid19 tests carried out in the UK.
(Gov.uk data).
From the government websiteBigB wrote:Does that include lateral flow tests - we use them liberally in this house, literally more LFTs than hot dinners over the last 3 months.monabri wrote:The number of Covid19 tests carried out in the UK.
(Gov.uk data).
Virus tests conducted
Number of confirmed positive, negative or void COVID-19 virus test results. This is a count of test results and may include multiple tests for an individual person. Virus tests test for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 virus and include all pillar 1 and 2 tests and any virus tests undertaken in pillar 4. Virus tests include PCR tests conducted in laboratories and rapid lateral flow tests that give results in less than an hour, without needing to go to a laboratory
I'm guessing it is based on reported LFTs +PCRs then, as opposed to distributed LFTs + PCRs. Most of our LFTs are unreported. If so, the figure would be somewhat higher than 274 million.redsturgeon wrote:From the government websiteBigB wrote: Does that include lateral flow tests - we use them liberally in this house, literally more LFTs than hot dinners over the last 3 months.
Virus tests conducted
Number of confirmed positive, negative or void COVID-19 virus test results. This is a count of test results and may include multiple tests for an individual person. Virus tests test for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 virus and include all pillar 1 and 2 tests and any virus tests undertaken in pillar 4. Virus tests include PCR tests conducted in laboratories and rapid lateral flow tests that give results in less than an hour, without needing to go to a laboratory