Hello all,
Been a while since I have been around these parts but this was the first place I thought of when I had this question.
My grandmother recently died. I have been taking care of her tax returns for the last few years and want to assist her tax affairs which I believe need to be in order before we apply for probate. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I understand I will need to submit a paper return, and my mother will sign it as executor.
There is the period for the tax year 21/22, for which she lived for the entire period. Then there is the period from the beginning of the tax year 22/23 up to the date of her death a few months back.
So my questions are:
1. Do I have to submit one return or two?
2. Am I able to submit for the 22/23 tax year yet given that the tax year is not complete?
I did speak to HMRC on the phone about this and they said I could not submit for 22/23 until the tax year was complete. So any information is much appreciated.
Many thanks.
Tax return for deceased grandmother
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- The full Lemon
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
Personally I would get the return for 2021/22 completed asap as it will soon run into the deadline anyway. For the current year, I would certainly do the calculation once you have everything together. Whether you can actually submit it or not is something I do not know but why ask HMRC if you are not going to accept what they say? You will need the figures anyway for probate.
Dod
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
Thanks Dod. I have all the details for the 21/22 so it should be very simple to do. Private pension, state pension, some dividends, bank interest. Nothing more than that. I already have the summaries for each and have been doing her returns for a fair few years now.
On HMRC, it is not that I don't want to accept what they say but the person I spoke to seemed very unsure as to what the answer was. I did search online for guidance from HMRC but did not find what I was looking for. Hence I thought it was worth asking the community here in case anyone has some experience or information they can share.
On HMRC, it is not that I don't want to accept what they say but the person I spoke to seemed very unsure as to what the answer was. I did search online for guidance from HMRC but did not find what I was looking for. Hence I thought it was worth asking the community here in case anyone has some experience or information they can share.
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
If she routinelt submitted one, then submitting for 21/22 should be done, preferable before the deadline!
When we experienced this in the past, the person died only a few months into the tax year. We spoke to HMRC who agreed that as there would be no tax due on the income for the short period, a return for the partial year was not required, but it will depend on the amounts inolved.
Paul
When we experienced this in the past, the person died only a few months into the tax year. We spoke to HMRC who agreed that as there would be no tax due on the income for the short period, a return for the partial year was not required, but it will depend on the amounts inolved.
Paul
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
Thank you. I will crack on with 21/22 and then cross the 22/23 bridge if and when required then.
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- The full Lemon
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
For the year of death, I think you get the full year allowances against what will usually be a part year pension and so on, so as Dr F says there may well be no tax due, maybe a rebate though! It is a while since I have done this.DrFfybes wrote:If she routinelt submitted one, then submitting for 21/22 should be done, preferable before the deadline!
When we experienced this in the past, the person died only a few months into the tax year. We spoke to HMRC who agreed that as there would be no tax due on the income for the short period, a return for the partial year was not required, but it will depend on the amounts inolved.
Paul
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
That's very helpful to know on the allowances. I suspect in that case there will be no further tax to pay and a possible rebate. Will need to do the sums.
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Re: Tax return for deceased grandmother
Given this is a paper return, the deadline has already passed. However I imagine that HMRC would be flexible in cases where the taxpayer died.Dod101 wrote:Personally I would get the return for 2021/22 completed asap as it will soon run into the deadline anyway. For the current year