Re: Camper vans where to go.
Posted: August 24th, 2020, 12:34 pm
Nimrod103 wrote: Wild campers of any kind are a blight on the landscape.
I'd suggest that is a huge generalisation.
How do you know of the WCers that leave nothing?
didds
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Nimrod103 wrote: Wild campers of any kind are a blight on the landscape.
Bethselamin may inspire. (HHGTTG)scotia wrote:The North 500 has become so over-run by Camper Vans and Wild Campers (particularly around Durness) that trowels have been placed in 90 lay-bys to allow considerate users to dig a hole for their excrement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-53734992
I wasn't really complaining about the litter (AIUI) they frequently leave behind. My complaint was about the blot on the landscape of bright orange and blue tents dotted around, spoiling views. Organized camp sites are usually tastefully hidden away, and are subject to planning law.didds wrote:Nimrod103 wrote: Wild campers of any kind are a blight on the landscape.
I'd suggest that is a huge generalisation.
How do you know of the WCers that leave nothing?
didds
I wasn't really complaining about the litter (AIUI) they frequently leave behind. My complaint was about the blot on the landscape of bright orange and blue tents dotted around, spoiling views. Organized camp sites are usually tastefully hidden away, and are subject to planning law.didds wrote:Nimrod103 wrote: Wild campers of any kind are a blight on the landscape.
I'd suggest that is a huge generalisation.
How do you know of the WCers that leave nothing?
didds
Same difference. All the caravans and campervans I see on the (legal) campsites I use, are gleaming white and silver. As is mine.didds wrote:Ah. The thread was about campervans and caravans etc - didnt realsie you were taklking about tents.
Presumably if tenters used camoflage or beige/darkl green tents the problem would go away?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pPwAAOSw ... s-l640.jpg
didds
Somehow or another the idea of WCers leaving nothing behind does not quite chime, noting the spades etc left in laybys according to some newspapers and referred to earlier in this thread.didds wrote:Nimrod103 wrote: Wild campers of any kind are a blight on the landscape.
I'd suggest that is a huge generalisation.
How do you know of the WCers that leave nothing?
didds
Mines stealth grey....Nimrod103 wrote: Same difference. All the caravans and campervans I see on the (legal) campsites I use, are gleaming white and silver. As is mine.
Is that the same shade as NC500 typical Scottish weather grey?didds wrote:Mines stealth grey....Nimrod103 wrote: Same difference. All the caravans and campervans I see on the (legal) campsites I use, are gleaming white and silver. As is mine.
didds
Nimrod103 wrote: Is that the same shade as NC500 typical Scottish weather grey?
If you're searching for it, it might help if you spell the name of your mountain rightRhyd6 wrote:Scott/Didds. Some info on the survey mentioned previously. It was called "The Snowden Green Key Initiative" but as far as I can make out it was never published.
What, like this?Snorvey wrote:There was a thing on the BBC today about a guy that had invented a caravan that floats.
I think we should check all caravans and campervans for their floatability.
Im wondering overall if the CVs/MHs were in effect no different than the car drivers ie day trippers - except they sleep over and bugger off the next day rather than drive ioff the same day.Rhyd6 wrote:This was divided into day visitors and people who stayed for a few days, mainly in caravans and camper vans. Day visitors especially those who had come just for the walking, tended to arrive early, park where there were no charges, bring sandwiches and drinks, walk their preferred route and go home. Visitors in motor homes tended to park wherever they could, bring provisions with them, rarely used the local restaurants and pubs though takeways did well.
R6
I've been up Snowdon many times, but only see it as a day trip. I think I have only spent money in Llanberis once in all the times I have been, with the exception of the car park.didds wrote:Im wondering overall if the CVs/MHs were in effect no different than the car drivers ie day trippers - except they sleep over and bugger off the next day rather than drive ioff the same day.Rhyd6 wrote:This was divided into day visitors and people who stayed for a few days, mainly in caravans and camper vans. Day visitors especially those who had come just for the walking, tended to arrive early, park where there were no charges, bring sandwiches and drinks, walk their preferred route and go home. Visitors in motor homes tended to park wherever they could, bring provisions with them, rarely used the local restaurants and pubs though takeways did well.
R6
that's conjecture mind. This was a report it seems on one verys epcific place with an obvious single attraction.
My expereince is for more generic places with longer stays (even if only a very few dayS). Im not sure the two scenarios are analogous, but fuilly accept this is purely conjecture.
Cerainly though Id say that survey as described is not representative of Cvs/MHs typical usage, and those NHs/Cvs that do bugger off with little input to the very local economy may well be spendfing their cash 40 miles down the road elsewhere. As I said - Cvs dont have that much room let alone pfor perishable stuff so have to shop fairly often.
We'll agree to disagree maybe.
didds
dealtn wrote: I've been up Snowdon many times, but only see it as a day trip. I think I have only spent money in Llanberis once in all the times I have been, with the exception of the car park.
Having said that I will have spent multiple hundreds of pounds in Harlech where I would typically be based for 4-7 days, in shops, bars, restaurants etc. so I'm not sure how a "survey" or the tourist authorities (or locals) would categorise that. I would consider I have injected money into the "local economy" even if they wouldn't.