Thoughts would be welcome on this situation -
A 58 year old being made redundant and offered £100k in redundancy. All £70k above the £30k tax free amount would be taxed at 40%, so they would keep a total of £72k after tax.
Or they can give up the whole of the £100k and get a £5k increase in pension from 58 (pension will be increased by CPI and has a 50% survivors pension which also increases by CPI). The whole of their pension would be taxed at the basic 20% rate (after the personal allowance).
The person has no mortgage or debts, a paid for house, a decent amount in ISAs as a mixture of cash and investments. They have a spouse but no children or anyone else to leave money to.
Which you you pick, and why, or would you do something completely different?
Redundancy Payment - Keep it or increase pension
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- Lemon Quarter
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- Lemon Half
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Re: Redundancy Payment - Keep it or increase pension
How old is the spouse, as that will be a factor in the value of the "survivors pension"?AF62 wrote:Thoughts would be welcome on this situation -
A 58 year old being made redundant and offered £100k in redundancy. All £70k above the £30k tax free amount would be taxed at 40%, so they would keep a total of £72k after tax.
Or they can give up the whole of the £100k and get a £5k increase in pension from 58 (pension will be increased by CPI and has a 50% survivors pension which also increases by CPI). The whole of their pension would be taxed at the basic 20% rate (after the personal allowance).
The person has no mortgage or debts, a paid for house, a decent amount in ISAs as a mixture of cash and investments. They have a spouse but no children or anyone else to leave money to.
Which you you pick, and why, or would you do something completely different?
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- Lemon Quarter
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Re: Redundancy Payment - Keep it or increase pension
58 and also being made redundant at the same time, with a similar but slightly lower redundancy offer - everything in joint names so also no debts, etc. etc.dealtn wrote:How old is the spouse, as that will be a factor in the value of the "survivors pension"?AF62 wrote:Thoughts would be welcome on this situation -
A 58 year old being made redundant and offered £100k in redundancy. All £70k above the £30k tax free amount would be taxed at 40%, so they would keep a total of £72k after tax.
Or they can give up the whole of the £100k and get a £5k increase in pension from 58 (pension will be increased by CPI and has a 50% survivors pension which also increases by CPI). The whole of their pension would be taxed at the basic 20% rate (after the personal allowance).
The person has no mortgage or debts, a paid for house, a decent amount in ISAs as a mixture of cash and investments. They have a spouse but no children or anyone else to leave money to.
Which you you pick, and why, or would you do something completely different?
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- Lemon Quarter
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Re: Redundancy Payment - Keep it or increase pension
Horses for courses, but for me personally it would be a no-brainer.
I like the idea of having my wealth in a mixture of assets - property, defined benefit pension (equivalent to index linked bonds) and equity investments, + cash buffer.
In the position described, having additional defined benefit is attractive.
If you took the retained 72K and spent it on an annuity, CPI index linked, and 50% survivors pension, from age 58, I suspect 72k would buy you an income of less than 2k.
The alternative being offered is 5k. Grab it.
I like the idea of having my wealth in a mixture of assets - property, defined benefit pension (equivalent to index linked bonds) and equity investments, + cash buffer.
In the position described, having additional defined benefit is attractive.
If you took the retained 72K and spent it on an annuity, CPI index linked, and 50% survivors pension, from age 58, I suspect 72k would buy you an income of less than 2k.
The alternative being offered is 5k. Grab it.
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- Lemon Half
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Re: Redundancy Payment - Keep it or increase pension
IF you were to take the money, please let me know where you effectively can get 6.94% gross interest (5k/72k) guaranteed with a cpi boost year on year and a 50% spouse's payment if you shuffle first. The thought of losing money at 40% tax rather than 20% also grates.
Personally, I'd definitely take the 5k option but then if said person is in poor health then they might go for the cash upfront ( despite the 40% tax hit )
Personally, I'd definitely take the 5k option but then if said person is in poor health then they might go for the cash upfront ( despite the 40% tax hit )