The end of indulgence?

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kiloran
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Re: The end of indulgence?

Post by kiloran »

terminal7 wrote:
When I was young, ahem, 40 odd years ago, I used to spend nearly all my money on records. I was obsessed. And if I REALLY liked a song, I would buy every version that came out. I can’t tell you how many different 12” versions of Two Tribes and 19 that I bought, but at least 3 of each and I’m hoping they are worth something now.
HYD - based on my experience probably not. About 10 years ago - triggered by downsizing - I (or more accurately the OH) decided that the LPs and 45s had to go together with the turntable. No buts - never been used for decades etc . . . . Did my own research and wandered around a couple of specialist shops in London. Eventually after showing a list with what I thought were the most valuable, one buyer agreed to come to my place to inspect. He emphasised that condition (record and cover - preferably kept in a plastic sleeve) and rarity was essential together with fashion. For some 80 LPs (mainly 60s and 70s) he offered £110 for the lot. I refused and said that he could have virtually all of them for £150 but extracted a couple. Not interested - actually just wanted two - willing to pay £100 for those two - the rest he would be doing me a favour by taking away. The 2 were both first pressings (very important) - Nick Drake Five Leaves Left and Sandy Denny The North Star Grassman and the Ravens (the former much more valuable). He mentioned that the Rolling Stones Aftermath early pressing would have been valuable but a scratch and no original cover made it worthless. In the end I kept the Nick Drake and he took the rest away for £140.

I suspect he got the best end of the deal by far.

T7
£110 does seem a bit low. I put mine (including Sandy Denny The North Star Grassman and the Ravens) into a specialist Oxfam music shop and they sold for over £1500
https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 48#p179748

--kiloran

terminal7
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Re: The end of indulgence?

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kiloran wrote:
terminal7 wrote: HYD - based on my experience probably not. About 10 years ago - triggered by downsizing - I (or more accurately the OH) decided that the LPs and 45s had to go together with the turntable. No buts - never been used for decades etc . . . . Did my own research and wandered around a couple of specialist shops in London. Eventually after showing a list with what I thought were the most valuable, one buyer agreed to come to my place to inspect. He emphasised that condition (record and cover - preferably kept in a plastic sleeve) and rarity was essential together with fashion. For some 80 LPs (mainly 60s and 70s) he offered £110 for the lot. I refused and said that he could have virtually all of them for £150 but extracted a couple. Not interested - actually just wanted two - willing to pay £100 for those two - the rest he would be doing me a favour by taking away. The 2 were both first pressings (very important) - Nick Drake Five Leaves Left and Sandy Denny The North Star Grassman and the Ravens (the former much more valuable). He mentioned that the Rolling Stones Aftermath early pressing would have been valuable but a scratch and no original cover made it worthless. In the end I kept the Nick Drake and he took the rest away for £140.

I suspect he got the best end of the deal by far.

T7
£110 does seem a bit low. I put mine (including Sandy Denny The North Star Grassman and the Ravens) into a specialist Oxfam music shop and they sold for over £1500
https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 48#p179748

--kiloran
Clearly my original optimism back in 2018 was misplaced on the thread you refer to kiloran or I was totally taken to the cleaners. The records have pressing notations on the inner non-grooved circle - closest to the label. This is where the 'experts' can tell the pressing. Anyway, now to little avail though I do notice on ebay the Nick Drake goes for in excess of £500 - but keeping it for the grandchildren.

T7

Howyoudoin
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Re: The end of indulgence?

Post by Howyoudoin »

terminal7 wrote:
kiloran wrote: £110 does seem a bit low. I put mine (including Sandy Denny The North Star Grassman and the Ravens) into a specialist Oxfam music shop and they sold for over £1500
https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 48#p179748

--kiloran
Clearly my original optimism back in 2018 was misplaced on the thread you refer to kiloran or I was totally taken to the cleaners. The records have pressing notations on the inner non-grooved circle - closest to the label. This is where the 'experts' can tell the pressing. Anyway, now to little avail though I do notice on ebay the Nick Drake goes for in excess of £500 - but keeping it for the grandchildren.

T7
I suspect that the value of my collection will fall somewhere between what you have both mentioned here.

I have a lot of respect for Clariman but I’m disappointed that he thinks that anyone that collects stuff, and gets a huge amount of pleasure out of doing so, has somehow fallen into a marketing mans’ trap.

Personally, I don’t have a car, because I think that I can get taxis, trains and buses at a fair cheaper annual cost than I can by buying a car and insurance etc.

But I don’t post on here saying that those who have cars have succumbed to ‘a marketing man’s dream’.

It’s very easy to belittle others for what they do, but it’s not very cool to do so.

HYD

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Re: The end of indulgence?

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I have a lot of respect for Clariman but I’m disappointed that he thinks that anyone that collects stuff, and gets a huge amount of pleasure out of doing so, has somehow fallen into a marketing mans’ trap.
I wasn't saying that collectors have fallen into a trap; I was suggesting that marketeers will like collectors because they can sell multiple items to them. You said that you had bought mutlltiple copies.
Personally, I don’t have a car ....

But I don’t post on here saying that those who have cars have succumbed to ‘a marketing man’s dream’.

It’s very easy to belittle others for what they do, but it’s not very cool to do so.
HYD, I wasn't intending to belittle you or anyone else. I apologise if that is how it came across. Genuinely.

All the best
Clariman

Howyoudoin
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Re: The end of indulgence?

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Clariman wrote:
I have a lot of respect for Clariman but I’m disappointed that he thinks that anyone that collects stuff, and gets a huge amount of pleasure out of doing so, has somehow fallen into a marketing mans’ trap.
I wasn't saying that collectors have fallen into a trap; I was suggesting that marketeers will like collectors because they can sell multiple items to them. You said that you had bought mutlltiple copies.
Personally, I don’t have a car ....

But I don’t post on here saying that those who have cars have succumbed to ‘a marketing man’s dream’.

It’s very easy to belittle others for what they do, but it’s not very cool to do so.
HYD, I wasn't intending to belittle you or anyone else. I apologise if that is how it came across. Genuinely.

All the best
Clariman
That’s exactly how it came across to me so thank you for apologising, as Pye did earlier.

I think the point of my post has been lost in people trying to point score against others, which is disappointing.

HYD

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Re: The end of indulgence?

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I think the point of my post has been lost in people trying to point score against others,

Nothing new there then.

Leo

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Re: The end of indulgence?

Post by WickedLester »

I collect CD's. I think I have 3 or 4 thousand of them, i'm not sure. I don't own a TV and I listen to a lot of music. Most of them have been bought second hand at boot sales and in charity shops. I find it's a really good way of finding new music that wouldn't come up on a Spotify algo.

I think my hobby started because I was a student in the 90's and as a new CD back then was about £15 coupled with the fact that I had limited funds it meant that getting one was a treat. Now I buy them for 50p or £1 and there is still a market for them on ebay.

A few weeks ago I got 7 CD's at a boot fair including 2 by the band Clutch, one of which I didn't have and really wanted and one which I had but knew I could sell for £6 or £7, for £3.50. The real bonus was a very rare Acid Rock CD by the band Asteroid #4 which I could probably sell for £30 if I ever really need the money.

The only problem is that I sometimes forget what I've got and end up with two copies of the same CD.

didds
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Re: The end of indulgence?

Post by didds »

WickedLester wrote:I collect CD's. I think I have 3 or 4 thousand of them, i'm not sure.
The only problem is that I sometimes forget what I've got and end up with two copies of the same CD.
The other problem you have (a nice one!) is getting to listen them all :-)

I have a TINY collection of vinyl and CDs - maybe a hundred or so - its tiny. And it takes me weeks to get through them all, if i was concentratying on rotating them steadily during work (from home) hours [ less online meetings ].

Your collection sounds fantastic.

I do add to that mix listening to bands online I see coming up at local venues, to see if I like them - and then will attend the venue and inevitably buy some merch. Biggest regret this year was not grabbing some vinyl off The Pierce Brothers when they played the Thekla in Bristol... its only available now shipped from Australia and the shipping costs make it prohibitive (in fact I just looked and they are now sold out).

didds

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