HSBC Q4 Results.

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HSBC Q4 Results.

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Noel Quinn, Group Chief Executive, said:
“2022 was another good year for HSBC. We completed the first phase of our transformation and our international connectivity is now
underpinned by good, broad-based profit generation around the world. This contributed to a strong overall financial performance. We are on
track to deliver higher returns in 2023 and have built a platform for further value creation. With the delivery of higher returns, we will have
increased distribution capacity, and we will also consider a special dividend once the sale of HSBC Canada is completed.”
2022 financial performance (vs 2021)
• Reported profit before tax fell by $1.4bn to $17.5bn, including an impairment on the planned sale of our retail banking operations in France
of $2.4bn. Adjusted profit before tax increased by $3.4bn to $24.0bn. Reported profit after tax increased by $2.0bn to $16.7bn,
including a $2.2bn credit arising from the recognition of a deferred tax asset.
• Reported revenue increased by 4% to $51.7bn, driven by strong growth in net interest income, with increases in all of our global
businesses, and higher revenue from Global Foreign Exchange in Global Banking and Markets (‘GBM’). This was in part offset by a $3.1bn
adverse impact of foreign currency translation differences, the impairment on the planned sale of our retail banking operations in France and
adverse movements in market impacts in insurance manufacturing in Wealth and Personal Banking (‘WPB‘). In addition, fee income fell in
both WPB and GBM. Adjusted revenue increased by 18% to $55.3bn.
• Net interest margin (‘NIM’) of 1.48% increased by 28 basis points (‘bps’), reflecting interest rate rises.
• Reported expected credit losses and other credit impairment charges (‘ECL’) were $3.6bn, including allowances to reflect increased
economic uncertainty, inflation, rising interest rates and supply chain risks, as well as the ongoing developments in mainland China‘s
commercial real estate sector. These factors were in part offset by the release of most of our remaining Covid-19-related reserves. This
compared with releases of $0.9bn in 2021. ECL charges were 36bps of average gross loans and advances to customers.
• Reported operating expenses decreased by $1.3bn or 4% to $33.3bn, reflecting the favourable impact of foreign currency translation
differences of $2.2bn and ongoing cost discipline, which were in part offset by higher restructuring and other related costs, increased
investment in technology and inflation. Adjusted operating expenses increased by $0.4bn or 1.2% to $30.5bn, including a $0.2bn adverse
impact from retranslating the 2022 results of hyperinflationary economies at constant currency.
• Customer lending balances fell by $121bn on a reported basis. On an adjusted basis, lending balances fell by $66bn, reflecting an
$81bn reclassification of loans, primarily relating to the planned sale of our retail banking operations in France and the planned sale of our
banking business in Canada, to assets held for sale. Growth in mortgage balances in the UK and Hong Kong mitigated a reduction in term
lending in Commercial Banking (‘CMB’) in Hong Kong.
• Common equity tier 1 (‘CET1’) capital ratio of 14.2% reduced by 1.6 percentage points, primarily driven by a decrease of a 0.8
percentage point from new regulatory requirements, a reduction of a 0.7 percentage point from the fall in the fair value through other
comprehensive income (‘FVOCI’) and a 0.3 percentage point fall from the impairment following the reclassification of our retail banking
operations in France to held for sale. Capital generation was mostly offset by an increase in risk-weighted assets (‘RWAs’) net of foreign
exchange translation movements.
• The Board has approved a second interim dividend of $0.23 per share, making a total for 2022 of $0.32 per share.
4Q22 financial performance (vs 4Q21)
• Reported profit before tax up $2.5bn to $5.2bn, reflecting strong reported revenue growth and lower reported operating expenses, while
reported ECL increased. Adjusted profit before tax up 92% to $6.8bn. Reported profit after tax up $2.9bn to $4.9bn.
• Reported revenue up 24% to $14.9bn, due to strong growth in net interest income and an increase in revenue from Markets and Securities
Services (‘MSS’), partly offset by the adverse impact of foreign currency translation differences. Adjusted revenue up 38% to $15.4bn.
• Reported ECL were $1.4bn in 4Q22 and included stage 3 charges relating to exposures in the mainland China commercial real estate
sector, as well as corporate exposures in the UK. This compared with charges of $0.5bn in 4Q21.
• Reported operating expenses down 6% to $8.9bn due to the favourable impact of foreign currency translation differences and ongoing
cost discipline, which more than offset increases in technology investment and performance-related pay. Adjusted operating expenses up
2% to $7.8bn.

Outlook
• The impact of our growth and transformation programmes, as well as higher global interest rates, give us confidence in achieving our
return on average tangible equity (‘RoTE‘) target of at least 12% for 2023 onwards.
• Our revenue outlook remains positive. Based on the current market consensus for global central bank rates, we expect net interest income
of at least $36bn in 2023 (on an IFRS 4 basis and retranslated for foreign exchange movements). We intend to update our net interest
income guidance at or before our first quarter results to incorporate the expected impact of IFRS 17 ‘Insurance Contracts’.
• While we continue to use a range of 30bps to 40bps of average loans for planning our ECL charge over the medium to long term, given
current macroeconomic headwinds, we expect ECL charges to be around 40bps in 2023 (including lending balances transferred to held for
sale). We note recent favourable policy developments in mainland China’s commercial real estate sector and continue to monitor events
closely.
• We retain our focus on cost discipline and will target 2023 adjusted cost growth of approximately 3% on an IFRS 4 basis. This includes
up to $300m of severance costs in 2023, which we expect to generate further efficiencies into 2024. There may also be an incremental
adverse impact from retranslating the 2022 results of hyperinflationary economies at constant currency.
HSBC Holdings plc 2022 Results 1
• We expect to manage the CET1 ratio within our medium-term target range of 14% to 14.5%. We intend to continue to manage capital
efficiently, returning excess capital to shareholders where appropriate.
• Given our current returns trajectory, we are establishing a dividend payout ratio of 50% for 2023 and 2024, excluding material significant
items, with consideration of buy-backs brought forward to our first quarter results in May 2023, subject to appropriate capital levels. We also
intend to revert to paying quarterly dividends from the first quarter of 2023.
• Subject to the completion of the sale of our banking business in Canada, the Board’s intention is to consider the payment of a special
dividend of $0.21 per share as a priority use of the proceeds generated by completion of the transaction. A decision in relation to any
potential dividend would be made following the completion of the transaction, currently expected in late 2023, with payment following in
early 2024. Further details in relation to record date and other relevant information will be published at that time. Any remaining additional
surplus capital is expected to be allocated towards opportunities for organic growth and investment alongside potential share buy-backs, which would be in addition to any existing share buy-back programme.

Interim dividends for 2023
For the financial year 2022, we achieved a dividend payout ratio within our 2022 target range of between 40% and 55% of reported earnings per
ordinary share (‘EPS’). As previously communicated, given our current returns trajectory, we are establishing a dividend payout ratio of 50% of
reported earnings per share for 2023 and 2024, excluding material significant items (including the planned sale of our retail banking operations in
France and the planned sale of our banking business in Canada). The Group intends to revert to paying quarterly dividends from the first quarter
of 2023. The dividend policy has the flexibility to adjust EPS for material significant items such as goodwill or intangibles impairments and may
be supplemented from time to time by buy-backs or special dividends, should the Group find itself in an excess capital position absent
compelling investment opportunities to deploy that excess.
Dividends are approved in US dollars and, at the election of the shareholder, paid in cash in one of, or in a combination of, US dollars, pounds
sterling and Hong Kong dollars.

Second interim dividend for 2022
The Directors have approved a second interim dividend for 2022 of $0.23 per ordinary share. Information on the currencies in which
shareholders may elect to have the cash dividend paid will be sent to shareholders on or about 24 March 2023. The interim dividend will be paid
in cash. The timetable for the interim dividend is:

Ex dividend 02 Mar 23, currency conversion rate on 17 Apr 23, paid on 27 Apr 23.
Items downloadable via here;

https://www.hsbc.com/investors/results- ... ouncements

Also posted on Company News here; https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 75#p569875

RNS on this likely to follow about 0700hrs today.

Ian (I hold)

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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Further to the above;

HSBC - Annual Results 2022 Webcast and Conference Call.
HSBC will be holding a webcast presentation and conference call today for investors and analysts. The speakers will be Noel Quinn (Group Chief Executive) and Georges Elhedery (Group Chief Financial Officer).

A copy of the presentation to investors and analysts is attached and is also available to view and download at https://www.hsbc.com/investors/results- ... ting/group .

Please click on the following link to view the presentation:
http://www.rns-pdf.londonstockexchange. ... 3-2-20.pdf

Full details of how to access the conference call appear below and details of how to access the webcast can also be found at http://www.hsbc.com/investors/results-and-announcements .

Time: 8 .30am (London); 4.30pm (Hong Kong); and 3.30am (New York).
https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00085024Q/

Ian (HSBC are the bank share of choice in my HYP),

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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I mentioned further up this thread about a RNS maybe being issued re these results. For completion, here it is; https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00025034Q/

As a footnote, HSBC down 1.6% on UK market opening. As a HYPer, that doesn't bother me tbh.

Ian.

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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Minor point of interest.

"We also intend to revert to paying quarterly dividends from the first quarter of 2023."

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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monabri wrote:Minor point of interest.

"We also intend to revert to paying quarterly dividends from the first quarter of 2023."
Other points which may be of (no) interest are on the Company News Board but I think the 2022 dividend will be about 50% higher than for 2021

Dod

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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idpickering wrote:I mentioned further up this thread about a RNS maybe being issued re these results. For completion, here it is; https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00025034Q/

As a footnote, HSBC down 1.6% on UK market opening. As a HYPer, that doesn't bother me tbh.

Ian.

Mr Market seems to have had a cogitate and changed it's mind...up 2.5%.

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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monabri wrote:
idpickering wrote:I mentioned further up this thread about a RNS maybe being issued re these results. For completion, here it is; https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00025034Q/

As a footnote, HSBC down 1.6% on UK market opening. As a HYPer, that doesn't bother me tbh.

Ian.

Mr Market seems to have had a cogitate and changed it's mind...up 2.5%.
Aye. I noticed that. Either way, I'm thinking a lot longer term than just today.

Ian.

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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A healthy 28% increase compared to last April - that’s what I like to see.

……and a return to quarterly dividends.

4.3% trailing yield - HSBA back in the HYP fold.

FD

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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funduffer wrote:4.3% trailing yield - HSBA back in the HYP fold.
Yes but quite a while in the wilderness and still a way to go before they reach 2018 levels. The self healing that's talked about, a few other offenders in my HYP have been coming back like Balfour Beatty, Compass and Glencore.

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funduffer wrote:……and a return to quarterly dividends.
What, if anything, might the private investor read from a change from six-monthly to quarterly dividends, and umgekehrt?

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csearle wrote:
funduffer wrote:……and a return to quarterly dividends.
What, if anything, might the private investor read from a change from six-monthly to quarterly dividends, and umgekehrt?
I would think/hope(?) that it means that the dividends will be substantial enough to make four payments worthwhile.

Dod

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Dod101 wrote:I would think/hope(?) that it means that the dividends will be substantial enough to make four payments worthwhile.
Thanks. Oh so it is as simple as that. Well, that is promising news. :) C.

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csearle wrote:
Dod101 wrote:I would think/hope(?) that it means that the dividends will be substantial enough to make four payments worthwhile.
Thanks. Oh so it is as simple as that. Well, that is promising news. :) C.
Thst is only what I think. I do not know any more than anyone else but when dividends were cancelled in 2020, they said that Hong Kong shareholders were particularly upset as many relied on HSBC dividends so I think that they want to impress upon these shareholders that they are back to normal. This is all politics as they want the army of HK shareholders on side.

In HK, HSBC is held in very high regard because in the old days, many local Chinese banks went bust and Wayfoong, the Chinese name for HSBC, was always there to bail them out.

Dod

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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Made my money back on HSBA today, and swapped the 3.4% yield for an (off topic) 6%. Hurrah.

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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moorfield wrote:Made my money back on HSBA today, and swapped the 3.4% yield for an (off topic) 6%. Hurrah.
I suspect that those selling out today may regret it but of course this is the HYP Board where income is everything.

I thought that HYPers did not sell?

Dod

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Dod101 wrote:I thought that HYPers did not sell?
Some of us do. Shhhh, don't tell anyone. C.

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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csearle wrote:
Dod101 wrote:I thought that HYPers did not sell?
Some of us do. Shhhh, don't tell anyone. C.
Just in case anyone is confused the guideline have this
It is acknowledged that individual HYP investors may from time to time see the need to sell individual HYP stocks, perhaps in response to adverse performance, portfolio imbalance, or a corporate action, e.g. takeover. It is further acknowledged that it would be unrealistic to rule that discussion of such actions is outside the board’s remit. It is stressed, however, that HYP investing was always intended to be a LTBH strategy.
https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23846

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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kempiejon wrote:
csearle wrote:Some of us do. Shhhh, don't tell anyone. C.
Just in case anyone is confused the guideline have this
It is acknowledged that individual HYP investors may from time to time see the need to sell individual HYP stocks, perhaps in response to adverse performance, portfolio imbalance, or a corporate action, e.g. takeover. It is further acknowledged that it would be unrealistic to rule that discussion of such actions is outside the board’s remit. It is stressed, however, that HYP investing was always intended to be a LTBH strategy.
https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23846
I know very well that that is the case. My comments were a feeble attempt at irony. It also illustrates why I could never be a HYPer.

Dod

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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Dod101 wrote: I suspect that those selling out today may regret it but of course this is the HYP Board where income is everything.

Not at all. Let's examine its dividend history over the last decade (*):
UP, UP, FLAT, FLAT, FLAT, DOWN, DOWN, UP, UP and back to just over half of what it was at the start of the sequence.

No, no longer for me.

The older and closer to early retirement I am getting the more I am persuaded by (unmentionable and higher yield) dividend histories that look like:
UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP





(*) https://www.hsbc.com/investors/sharehol ... 020&page=1

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Re: HSBC Q4 Results.

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moorfield wrote:
Dod101 wrote: I suspect that those selling out today may regret it but of course this is the HYP Board where income is everything.

Not at all. Let's examine its dividend history over the last decade (*):
UP, UP, FLAT, FLAT, FLAT, DOWN, DOWN, UP, UP and back to just over half of what it was at the start of the sequence.

No, no longer for me.

The older and closer to early retirement I am getting the more I am persuaded by (unmentionable and higher yield) dividend histories that look like:
UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP, UP





(*) https://www.hsbc.com/investors/sharehol ... 020&page=1
I know I know. This is of course the HYP Board. I was not thinking from a HYPers point of view (except that I am primarily an income investor) I was thinking from the point of view of a seller at the moment. They seem to me to have momentum both in terms of the share price and the dividends.

As a long term holder I know only too well that their record is not exactly brilliant, much like most banks. I might even sell some myself before long as they are now my biggest holding

Dod

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