Credit to Oil Users

[Dod101]

I will shortly need to top up my domestic oil tank. I wonder if any other grid user of domestic oil has been able to recover the £300 we are supposed to get via our electricity supplier? If so how did they do it?

Dod

[scrumpyjack]

I posted to 'Alternative Fuel Payment' the other day as follows:

Fools who used oil heating should soon get their £200 Alternative Fuel payment.

One of my oil suppliers has just notified me that from Feb 6th oil heating users should receive £200 credited to their electricity supplier account.
Apparently this has been sorted out by HMG searching various databases so there may be the odd problem if they have not correctly identified that you use oil and the account details of your electricity supplier.

[Laughton]

How much must this be costing (apart from the actual money being credited to users)?

Surely it would have been so much cheaper to simply zero rate heating oil. Virtually no cost involved.

[Dod101]

I posted to 'Alternative Fuel Payment' the other day as follows:

Fools who used oil heating should soon get their £200 Alternative Fuel payment.

One of my oil suppliers has just notified me that from Feb 6th oil heating users should receive £200 credited to their electricity supplier account.
Apparently this has been sorted out by HMG searching various databases so there may be the odd problem if they have not correctly identified that you use oil and the account details of your electricity supplier.

Yes. I have used only one supplier for a long time and they told me the same but without a specific date. Unfortunately, being told or reassured has not brought the funds (whether £200 or £300) into my electricity supplier account. So I will take that as a ‘No’.

Frankly I do not expect to receive anything because I do not know how my electricity supplier is expected to know or to investigate whether I use oil or not.

Dod

[didds]

I'm with Dod.

It's totally unclear how anybody knows I use oil? Except my oil provider - who has only supplied us twice since our long standing previous supplier retired and closed business.


didds

[didds]

Prompted by this thread I just emailed our heating oil suppliers and asked them if they knew.

they phoned back with the following info which is what THEY understand to be the case.

the extra £200 is for households that are off gas grid - ie not on mains gas. the govt allegedly has a database of such properties. And thus for those households the govt will provide the electricity suppliers/howsoever the £200 to be credited.

For households ON the gas grid but that use heating oil, there will be an online portal via which those households can apply for the £200.

My heating oil people didn't know any more, but they did at least know more than i had (the bar was very low!).

From the above Im guessing its not actually about using heating oil, but being off gas grid, so maybe using more electricity for heating

Im sure it won't be that easy...

didds

[Mike4]

I'm with Dod.

It's totally unclear how anybody knows I use oil? Except my oil provider - who has only supplied us twice since our long standing previous supplier retired and closed business.


didds

Same here.

I buy my oil via membership of "The Oil Club", who punt around every couple of weeks for the cheapest quote to send a tanker to the village. We choose a different supplier nearly every time!

https://www.oil-club.co.uk/

[scrumpyjack]

I'm with Dod.

It's totally unclear how anybody knows I use oil? Except my oil provider - who has only supplied us twice since our long standing previous supplier retired and closed business.


didds

Same here.

I buy my oil via membership of "The Oil Club", who punt around every couple of weeks for the cheapest quote to send a tanker to the village. We choose a different supplier nearly every time!

https://www.oil-club.co.uk/

Our village belongs to the Oil Club and I watch their prices but I always find it is cheaper to buy from NRG or Boilerjuice. It may be that if you are only ordering 500 litres at a time Oil Club is cheaper but I order far more than that.

[Redmires]

I don't know how accurate this article is but it suggests the £400 (& maybe£200) rebate can be claimed for off grid users from the Gov.uk website from February 27th. Hope so as we haven't had a penny so far. Our position is that we live in a rented barn attached to a farm. The electric and LPG is supplied via the farm at the business unit rate (not retail) and we pay whatever the farm is charged for power. The fear is that the business support ends in March so prices will skyrocket. We have a great relationship with the landlord and there's no sense of our being exploited or anything.

Around 900,000 households without a direct relationship with an electricity supplier will also be eligible for a £400 government rebate. Energy Bill Support Scheme Alternative Funding (EBSS AF), as it is known, will be equivalent to the £400 rebate issued to on-grid households, and applications for this rebate will open from February 27.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/c ... 0-26050449

[daveh]

I've just had an email from my electricity supplier (OVO) to say they will credit me with the £200 this month. Wasn't expecting it as I've been getting the monthly £67 quid and I'm not an oil user, but do heat my house with solid fuel (wood) and am not on the gas grid.

[Dod101]

Same here.

I buy my oil via membership of "The Oil Club", who punt around every couple of weeks for the cheapest quote to send a tanker to the village. We choose a different supplier nearly every time!

https://www.oil-club.co.uk/

Our village belongs to the Oil Club and I watch their prices but I always find it is cheaper to buy from NRG or Boilerjuice. It may be that if you are only ordering 500 litres at a time Oil Club is cheaper but I order far more than that.

When I order my heating oil, it is always cheaper (per litre!) if I order 2000 litres than 1000 if to one address. I imagine that Oil Club benefits are eroded to some extent if they have to deliver to say half a dozen addresses with 500 litres each even in the same village.

Dod

[Dod101]

I've just had an email from my electricity supplier (OVO) to say they will credit me with the £200 this month. Wasn't expecting it as I've been getting the monthly £67 quid and I'm not an oil user, but do heat my house with solid fuel (wood) and am not on the gas grid.

Maybe there is hope then. I was switched to Ovo from SSE for my electricity. Anyway I am not holding my breath.

Dod

[Mike4]

Our village belongs to the Oil Club and I watch their prices but I always find it is cheaper to buy from NRG or Boilerjuice. It may be that if you are only ordering 500 litres at a time Oil Club is cheaper but I order far more than that.

When I order my heating oil, it is always cheaper (per litre!) if I order 2000 litres than 1000 if to one address. I imagine that Oil Club benefits are eroded to some extent if they have to deliver to say half a dozen addresses with 500 litres each even in the same village.

Dod

Living in just a tineeee humble weeny hovel myself, I only have a1250 litre tank, and have to order in multiples of 500 litres. Being reluctant to run it down to only 10% full I order 500L at a time, each time it gets down to under half. About twice a year. So I doubt I'm buying at an especially competitive price.

I've often mulled this over and like any heavyweight commodity, I think the major costs lie in the handling of it rather than of the raw material itself. Yet customers insist on paying per litre, kg, cubic metre etc. and with free delivery. I'm sure the suppliers would rather charge the village (say) £1,500 for a tanker to spend a day in the village delivering around, plus a much lower bill for one tankerful of fuel.

[Dod101]

I have a 2500 litre tank and by this time of year I can buy 1000 litres which will usually last me until July but if the price seems favourable I will buy 2000 litres. Currently I do not know what I will do and will decide on the day.

Dod

[88V8]

Today Ovo informed us that we are getting a £200 credit towards our firewood.
I have no idea how they know we use firewood... Are they flying overhead in a balloon looking for sparks?

V8

[Dod101]

Today Ovo informed us that we are getting a £200 credit towards our firewood.
I have no idea how they know we use firewood... Are they flying overhead in a balloon looking for sparks?

V8

You must have a direct line to a very generous benefactor. I too am with Ovo but have heard nothing either about the credit due for fuel oil and certainly not for firewood/logs. I would love a credit for either or both but have so far heard nothing.

Meanwhile I have just ordered 2000 litres of oil at 74.9. That is giving it away compared to recent prices.

Dod

[smokey01]

Meanwhile I have just ordered 2000 litres of oil at 74.9. That is giving it away compared to recent prices

.

Can I ask where you get your oil from as my mothers current supplier is charging over 95p a litre?

[Dod101]

Meanwhile I have just ordered 2000 litres of oil at 74.9. That is giving it away compared to recent prices

.

Can I ask where you get your oil from as my mothers current supplier is charging over 95p a litre?

Depends on the volume but the most I have paid is 87.5p in July 2022 for 2000 litres. Not sure if I am allowed to mention the name and no doubt it will be removed if I am not, but I find a company whose initials are H F, based in Inverness, usually the most competitive. They have countrywide coverage.

Dod

[smokey01]

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Can I ask where you get your oil from as my mothers current supplier is charging over 95p a litre?

Depends on the volume but the most I have paid is 87.5p in July 2022 for 2000 litres. Not sure if I am allowed to mention the name and no doubt it will be removed if I am not, but I find a company whose initials are H F, based in Inverness, usually the most competitive. They have countrywide coverage.

Dod

Thanks, I’ll do some googling and I’m sure I will figure it out

[Dod101]

Depends on the volume but the most I have paid is 87.5p in July 2022 for 2000 litres. Not sure if I am allowed to mention the name and no doubt it will be removed if I am not, but I find a company whose initials are H F, based in Inverness, usually the most competitive. They have countrywide coverage.

Dod

Thanks, I’ll do some googling and I’m sure I will figure it out

Have pm'd details to you.

Dd